i certaintly don’t expect any solutions coming from the likes of facebook or google because their very business model is part of the problem
what social media platforms do right now is sort of segregate people into these ideological bubbles, causing the well-known echo chamber effect which leads to radicalization, atomization and people losing touch with reality. i think this is the wrong way to go about it.
maybe the way to limit the spread of information should be based more on geographical closeness than closeness of interests.
@allison well, even if you magically equip everyone with media literacy, i don’t think that’s going to solve the problem.
you also have to consider for example, how many people go and ask google for things like relationship advice, or how they should behave in certain situations. i get the feeling that people are increasingly insecure and anxious. constantly looking for validation is also what fuels a lot of online aggression against outgroups, exaggerated virtue signaling, etc.
@allison nobody wants to get pushed out of their in-group for being different, and mass media tends to form groups with cult-like ideologies. the way things work now is just fundamentally dangerous and damaging to our society.
@allison sorry if i misunderstood. i guess in other words, provide the means to build a collective immune system?
@mia I really like that idea of bringing back geographical closeness into the digital mix. Not the way annoying geoblocked videos or creepy “find people around you” app features do it, but instead somehow creating a buffer or at least letting people give more importance to spatially local interactions... I guess it’s part of the general idea of bringing more meatspace-like interaction into the digital space, to make us more human on the web?
@vivit @mia I definitely agree about concerns around privacy, this needs to be taken into account and sharing location should only be an opt-in thing, with the possibility of providing a very imprecise location like a whole city.
I also agree with your second point: I never said it should be a hard restriction. It should be an option we can turn on or off. I love that we can find communities around the world nowadays. It’s even a lifesaver for some of us!
@mia from my understanding, this is one of the big arguments behind local-first networks and gossip networks that solarpunks/permacomputing ppl love to think about
it's not the *essential* argument, but it all ties in together. generating ideological bubbles is, if nothing else, really fuckin' profitable, the converse is that thinking about your neighbors first is actively dangerous (organizing, movement-building, mutual aid, w/e)
I'm deeply skeptical of big-T Tech, but not quite in a way that makes me go all-in on the solarpunk thing, if only bc it strikes me as an offshoot of the classic "separatist commune outside of normal society" thing with fresh+updated analysis; the analysis is pretty stimulating, though
idk if you know xj9 (I'm not in the tilde crowd but everyone seems to know everyone there), but if you don't, she's who i've read most about it: https://sunshinegardens.org/gemini/sunshinegardens.org/~xj9/trivial-technology/
@mia it seems plain to me that engaging on a local basis first/foremost isn't a universal band-aid for oppression and material conditions, but idk, maybe it foments some magical deep understanding of one another, maybe it's above my paygrade atm